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Archives for February 2020

Meet Laura Joseph, Spiritual Medium, Trauma Specialist and Healer


I’m wishing you a happy belated Valentine’s Day. I was traveling last week in CA, touring potential communities for a new home. Honestly, I’m a little in sticker shock. My extensive Real Estate background didn’t prepare me for this. California is unimaginably expensive. I guess I am going to pay dearly for great weather. 

Thing is, I really want to live there. So, I’m going to have to hold the vision and not let unfounded fear derail me.

I celebrated Valentine’s with my granddaughter in LA, who was dressed in pink of course and wore her angel wings. She told me she was a flower fairy. We were outside waving her magic wand at the full moon making wishes.

Oh my god, be still my heart. Her free spirit and exuberant imagination are powerful examples of the self-confidence she has as a young girl. She has been raised in a healthy, loving environment and encouraged to express her creativity in a multitude of ways.

There is a flip side to this. One that is becoming more common. I’m referencing the young girls that have had their innocence, their free spirit ripped from them and have been silenced by the atrocities of domestic abuse. They have witnessed their mother’s being abused or have been victims themselves. It’s really a big problem that doesn’t get talked about enough.

Sometimes a conventional medical approach is just another bandaid over a gaping wound.

If you have been following me for a while you know by now, I am always looking for alternative ways to heal. I am a huge believer in holistic remedies. I’ve also witnessed firsthand what can happen to these young girls and their mothers when they are processed through our legal and medical systems. They can be lost in the shuffle of paperwork and end up being victims again.

This week’s conversation on Awakening Divine Wildness is a much-needed one. My guest, Laura Joseph is a super knowledgeable expert on dealing with and healing trauma. She learned the hard way, by being a victim of domestic abuse and rape herself. She knows the pain of C-PTSD personally and the poisonous grip it holds on your life.

Laura uses a spiritually based integrative holistic and health program through her “Healing Trauma Through Spirit” for women.

Trust me, this show is an eye-opener, revealing ways for women to reclaim their power from the shadows of abuse and trauma.

If I could wave a magic wand, I would want all women to live loving, prosperous lives that are free from abuse and trauma. A life where a woman wakes up every day and know she’s valued. A day where she can wear her wings.

We can do this…working together and supporting one another. Women are the future!

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Mal: I am excited today because I get to talk to someone I know personally. Many of my guests are from around the globe, but this lady, I know, I’ve been nose to nose and toes to toes with her. And I even did one of her magical full day retreats and I came out feeling so uplifted and so whole and connected to my heart at the end of the day with Laura Joseph. She’s magical and I’m thrilled to have her on today. But Laura’s journey has not come without challenge. When she was trying to heal that broken feeling that she had within herself for so many decades after suffering abuse, including domestic violence and rape, resulting in complex CPTSD. Laura delved into traditional American health care system, hoping she could returned to her unbroken self. She wasn’t getting better and band-aids were increasingly applied to her mental, emotional, and physical symptoms that began to spiral out of control.

[00:01:21] Laura began to heal herself when she began looking into the spiritual aspects of her issues that the healthcare system couldn’t figure out. She systematically implemented a spiritually based holistic approach to her healing, which saved her life in ways to defy a logic. Since then, Laura’s been a sought after spoke person. Laura has experience as a trauma specialist, a domestic abuse advocate, college educator, end of life transition specialist with over health advocacy and college educator with over 15 years’ experience working in the healthcare system. She’s a healer, an educator, a natural born intuitive, a manifested physician and a trauma survivor, a health advocate, a mentor, an artist, a writer, and an overall spiritual bad-ass and I can attest that. She is sought after for speaking all over and she has a fabulous website that is called ‘Healing with Spirit’ and her business is Healing with Spirit in Hingham, MA. Laura, I am over the moon girl that you’re with me today on 1212 this is like a super high energy day. And look what I’ve got, the cosmic queen of resolving trauma from abuse. How are you dear?

Laura Joseph: I’m doing good. These energies are sure shit kicker, that’s all I know because it’s really in trauma, it’s interesting I was chuckling over the fact that we picked this day. And I did a live video this morning on 1212 and how much trauma peace is developed in the whole 1212 full moon, on a 1212 AM, you know. Today, three years and I’m going, “holy shit, this is like major, [Inaudible 03: 28 – 03:29] like the generational, it’s the personal, it’s the karmic. It’s all surfacing all at the same time.”

Mal: Powerful, powerful energies. I love it. I love moving energy and I have many rituals I use for new moons and full moons. And I had all my crystals laid out last night, had the singing bowl going and I had them all in the moonlight. It was wonderful. Came down with the morning and they were all like sparkling in charge.

Laura Joseph: [00:03:59] Well that’s good because sometimes, I’m a Pisces, this is actually a Pisces number as well. So,   I’m so sensitive that I didn’t sleep until after one, two o’clock in the morning. And then I had a hard time getting up this morning and I was like, “Oh my gosh.” You know, but I guess this is where I bless my junk because as I like to say is “you’ve got to learn to bless that and learn to go and master the flow, not the outcome,” you know. And you kind of chuckle at these little hiccups that we get, you know.

Mal: Wonderful. So I am just so taken back by your transparency, your vulnerability in sharing that you personally went through decades of violence and trauma. So give the listeners just a little history. I don’t want to, you know, drag the suffering of, but just a recap of kind of what has inspired you to step up and do what you do today?

Laura Joseph: [00:05:06] Well, growing up, I didn’t know what a normal household was like. I grew up in an abusive household and I have no resentment towards either one of my parents. They, I think at that time did the best that they thought they could. But it also didn’t make it easy for me to go to my parents for the subsequent events that had happened, where I was actually even molested as a child by some neighborhood kids that we just thought things were just normal, you know because I didn’t know what normal looked like.  I was sexually abducted at 12, in a town that was deemed to be safe, even though nothing happened, “so-called happened.”  I was still groped. I still blamed myself and didn’t talk to anybody about it because you know, “Hey, go help me find my puppy” and next thing you know am behind this abandoned building and told to pull my pants down. To being raped at 15, losing my virginity through rape. To being sexually abducted, ruffyed at 22 and my best friend had to pull me out of a car of four strange men and figure out how to drive a stick shift in the middle of Philadelphia, in the hills. So all by herself.

[00:06:16] So, and then I met my ex-husband and got married at 26 and then the rest is history of “Oh, this systemic abuse” that I didn’t realize existed in our, even in our system, you know. That, you know, in the family courts and how 58,000 children are illegally trafficked by way of family courts. You’ve seen a lot in the media this year, what’s going on at the border, but nobody talks about 58,000 children being legally trafficked by way of family courts to abuser and rapists every year.

Mal: It’s awful and you see in the news, several times a year locally for me, children who have died in foster care. And that breaks my heart because that could have been prevented.

Laura Joseph: Yeah. [00:07:05] This is like, you know, I spent 10 years researching and advocating for families in Massachusetts and the punishment or I should say the reward I got for doing so, I actually had 20 families against one judge. My mission was to remove him from the bench. And I grew up in an environment that the truth always prevails, right? That you tell the truth and you know, it always wins, right?  You can’t, you know, abuser can’t get away with things. And so I thought that that was on my side. And I ended up at Framingham State Penitentiary to be silenced.  That was the system’s way of silencing me on advocating for these 20 families, which compromise over 80 children, and protective mothers against one judge who was knowingly giving custody and visitation to rapist and documented abusers.

Mal: Well, oh my god. What? So many women get violated the way that you have, even in childhood, their teens and yet they seem to minimize what happened to them. They are afraid to step up and really say what happened. Why do you think that is Laura?

Laura Joseph: [00:08:34] I think its multi-fold, one, I know in my situation it was retaliation. Not only retaliation from your abuser but actually retaliation from the system that says on one level, “we’re going to protect you,” but really what they’re doing is the system is a colonized system. Let’s get real. We think as women we have rights. I didn’t realize how many rights because I had just grown up very independent that I’m able to a man in every way until I faced the system that is very white man dominated. And it’s not to say white men are evil, but this is the system that we’ve created.

[00:09:11] So women are, don’t have the power that we think we do when it comes to law, legislation, when it comes to being believed. Because when we have a colonized mind-set, you know, it is conquer and enslave. That’s the mentality of a colonizer’s mind-set. And until we as a society can wake up and realize that’s the society we have been bred into, we can’t change that. I had somebody asked me recently, “why do we normalize violence and all these things?” I said, “Because we’re colonized.” We don’t realize we’ve normalized it. It’s so in our veins. We don’t even realize that what we’re thinking and what we’re believing is wrong, you know. And women blame women. You can see her coming out of a bar with her clothes, rip, bloody, bruised and beaten. And the first thing might be, “what did you do to deserve this?” Instead of, “who did this to you?” Right?

Mal: Yeah.

Laura Joseph:   And I’ve seen people that claim to be healers and spiritual leaders, even in churches that call out and say, “Women lie about rape.” And I just go, “Oh my god, do you realize what you’re doing? Do you actually realize….” Because, I know my advocacy years, how many girls, I didn’t know how bad this was when I was doing advocacy of how prevalent ruffying girls on college campuses are. That it’s the gateway drug, not the gateway drug, but it’s the gateway to keep yourself from getting prosecuted. And that girls wake up on college campuses normalizing saying “as long as they don’t remember, it’s okay.” There’s something wrong with this when we start normalizing this behavior, this violation that we don’t realize later on may end up as fibroids, endometriosis, uterine cancer, you know, breast cancer, all these things that we know are linked to abuse and sexual violence. Just because you say you don’t remember, doesn’t mean your body doesn’t remember.

Mal: And you hold that trauma and what happens is, it changes the cellular structure.

Laura Joseph: Yes, it does.

Mal: But you always say if you can heal trauma, you can heal anything.

Laura Joseph: [00:11:39] That is a firm belief. That’s been my mission. I mean, when I first left my marriage in 2005, they gave me a cocktail of a lot of medications, of all kinds of things. I had all kinds of mental health as well as physical symptoms from a haemorrhagic uterine bleeding, too severe PTSD, Insomnia, Anxiety, Panic to chronic, left side pain. I had a lot of these, I would choke just on water. It was insane, the subtleties of what my body was responding. And when I started realizing the cocktail wasn’t making me better, but making me worse, that’s what led me into, “okay, there’s got to be something else.” And I grew up in the healthcare field and it’s in a field filled with holistic doctors to boot. So I already had one foot in there a little bit, but when I started really going into the spiritual path and all of a sudden my body was kicking medications to the curb, I’m going and I was actually getting better, I was like, “okay, what’s wrong with this picture?” Because why not go to a therapists, or a doctor and a pill’s going to fix you or therapy is going to fix you. And I’m finding “no, that didn’t help me.” That actually made me feel more broken, okay? So it doesn’t mean that in some cases, for other people that might be what they need. And I never persuade somebody to not seek those things, you know. What I say is when you’ve tried that and nothing is working, then you got to look at another component.

[00:13:21] And with my Japanese teachers, I really got to understand that trauma seeds itself, not just what we think, like, “Oh, in the mind”, you know, or in “the physical body.” Well, no, but they’re also, they are separate bodies. There’s the mental body, the physical body, the emotional body, and the spiritual body. Where was the trauma seated? Yeah, it was grabbed by the throat and thrown up against the wall. Is it seeding in me physically, mentally, emotionally, or spiritually or combination? And how was that manifesting?

Mal:  How do you, how do you decipher that?

Laura Joseph: [00:13:54] Listening to the body.  So I teach people how to listen to their, see our bodies are designed to heal themselves. We have been, again, from a colonized culture, we have been conditioned to turn our power over to a pill, to a corporation, to a doctor, to a politician, to an advocate, right? And what I do is I say, “Let me help you become your own superhero,” okay. Because when you can do that and help your own body know how to heal itself, just by learning how to reconnect and re-educate yourself on what does that look like. And I like, this week I had clients that said to me, “Geez, I didn’t realize how far I’ve come. My mother said this to me today. I had somebody came up to me and said this to me today that so, you know, when you had this conflict last year, this is how you reacted?” And they were very frustrated with how their mother was behaving, they couldn’t handle. And I said, “But watch, you live together. What you’re doing it’s going to rub off, right? So they said, “the law,” they were saying, “look at this battery, you created how healthy it is.” And I go, “are you paying attention to how your parents responding? Because you were saying that you didn’t know how to get through to them at all.” And to be mindful of how you’re letting things go and you’re going, “but how did I do that?” Then I go, “because you created this innate system within yourself and my goal is help create that.” We all create that differently. Because what does that look like for that individual person? That’s where it gets maybe a little complex. It’s a little time consuming because everybody has a different way of communicating and what that looks like for them.

Mal: Do you have certain modalities that you really favour or recommend for women to heal trauma?

Laura Joseph: [00:15:46] I am a big ad from everything that I’ve done.  I’ve done everything from massage to acupuncture, Tai Chi. I think it’s, what works for you. For what has worked for me isn’t just Reiki, because I got to be careful with that because I can see Reiki as equally as harmful with the wrong practitioner who’s unskilled and untrained, but Jikiden Reiki. I couldn’t understand how different it was when I was doing more Western Reiki. I had so many other things I had to add to what I was doing to make sure that what they were releasing was in a safe environment. And when I started learning Jikiden Reiki, which is the direct teachings out of Japan that are non-colonized, non-westernized, as it was done in Japan, before it came to the West. And I was like going, I was just looking at the results and I’m going, ‘holy shit.”  It was like night and day. And then I started experimenting it with people, with wound care and getting people’s wounds that weren’t closing for three months. All of a sudden one or two sessions, closed. So, now I’m on a mission, obviously using myself as the poster board because if I’m not walking it, then how do I expect somebody else to do it? It’s not as easy, it depends on what’s, there’s so much involved as in the rituals of Jikiden Reiki that’s hard to do in a podcast.

Mal: Can you maybe in a very simple way, what’s the difference between the Reiki that you’re using and the Western Reiki that we’re all kind of familiar with? Is there some ingredient or something that you can kind of pinpoint for us to understand?

Laura Joseph: [00:17:43] I think, you know, from my experience and coming from both worlds, I always knew there was something missing in the westernized Reiki, I didn’t know what. Because if it cured every known illness and disease, why wasn’t I seeing this in a medical environment? So I felt like there was something, again, I come from a very intuitive, background. So like something in me just didn’t sound right, I didn’t know why. And to be honest with you, just the word Jikiden, I was drawn to, I didn’t know why. And then when I learned that the word Jikiden translated into English means direct teaching. I was like, “Oh, okay.” So what I want to say like between Western Reiki and Jikiden Reiki, Western Reiki, some people say, “All they talk about is shock horizon, ore horizon, crystals” and “Oh, let me talk to your dead uncle.” None of that is Reiki. Let’s just get that clear, okay. And I’m hoping I’m not offending anybody, but this is how we’ve westernized it. It doesn’t mean that what they’re doing is wrong because I did it, I taught it. I didn’t understand either. And it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t have a value. When I went to the direct teachings, it was really all about removing toxicity and restoring wholeness. It’s about ego destruction. 

Mal: Ego destruction.

Laura Joseph: Yes.

Mal: Yes.

Laura Joseph: [00:19:10] Reiki, it’s about, “Hey, put your hands on everybody and let’s make magic. I’m a healer. I’m going to fix you, but I’m not going to do my work.” Something simple, like the Go Chi with, I had my first little pending talking about the go Chi, which are five simple sentences and in English, it’s something as simple as learning in English, minimizes the importance of saying in Japanese [inaudible 19:34] is “Just for today, do not [Inaudible 19:36], do not worry, be grateful. Do your duties fully, be kind to others? And in Japanese it’s Okoru-n., Sinpai suna, Kansha shite Goo hage me. Hito ni shinsetsu ni. So when you say it, it does a resonance because of a frequency and vibration, these are the subtleties that can make magic. And I have a pending book on this. I couldn’t believe I wrote a book on five sentences [inaudible 19:59] healing trauma and chronic illness and it made me realize like why the victims stay victims?

[Inaudible 20:08] is conditioned to believe that we’re victim, right? The power of the mind-set. Who’s going to believe me, you know? Or I just got a cowboy it up and just move. I got to keep moving because I’m told I don’t, you know, me grieving over this or need crying or having an emotional breakdown over what happened to me. I shouldn’t be entitled to that. [00:20:30] So we are entitled. I teach my clients, that you have to honour that wound. You have to honour that pain.

Mal: Yes.

Laura Joseph: [00:21:00] The magic to become whole again isn’t avoiding the shadows. Actually having the courage to go into the shadows and to know about the triggers, I call them triggers. Triggers are nothing more than a clue to the treasure on the treasure map. And we can switch our mind-set to see them as close to the treasure and not as, “oh my God, why am I feeling this? Oh my God, I’m going to have a breakdown. Oh my God, I didn’t want this, he did this again.” No, get out of that. I want my mind-set to tell my brain to “shut the fuck up. Am already done with those games. They are not going to mess with me anymore. What happened to me, happened to me?” But my brain, I do not want my brain to kind of bring me back and constantly re-traumatize me. So it’s clean, those new neurosynopsis, there’s new neuropathways and belief systems. So, all these angles and all this kind of came down to learning Jikiden Reiki.

Because when you go into the ego destruction, you see all these things very clearly. [Inaudible 21:44] has a shifted, since learning that because there’s so many piles of Jikiden Reiki that can’t necessarily be shared, that’s not taught in Westernised Reiki because it’s a cultural difference. That’s like a mental thing. I know so many wonderful Reiki practitioners in the West that don’t even say it’s Japanese anymore. It doesn’t mean that what they’re doing is wrong or that what they’re doing doesn’t have value. I want to be clear on that. We’re talking about trauma, it’s everything. It’s everything and it takes experience. It takes knowing when to put your hands on one, when to not put your hands on, when to hold space. Okay? When to help somebody just practice the breathing and you know and to know that they’re in a safe environment, right? So this is where I’m not putting myself first, I’m putting them first. But in order to put them first, I have to deal with my own junk. If cant’ deal with my own junk, then how can I be effective for them?

Mal: Right. I’ve always said to women, “you need to feel the pain in order to heal it.” There’s no way to circumvent that because it’s going to come back. It’s going to bite you in the tail, harder the second time around.

Laura Joseph: Yes.

Mal: You deal with it and feel it and process it. Allow yourself that, you owe it to yourself. If you’ve been through something horrific and you’ve been traumatized to feel the pain so that you know that once you’re there that you can, there are modalities, there are ways to heal it. But if you deny it, you’re not going to get to the healing.

Laura Joseph: [00:23:30] That’s exactly right. I mean, almost every person I have seen with either terminal cancer, cancer, autoimmune disorders, mental health issues from anxiety, PTSD,  suicidal ideations to, you know, all kinds of things, have all been linked to [inaudible 23:49]. We have an epidemic of unresolved trauma in this country. And recently, a lot of the opiate epidemic is also a way of numbing traumatic events. So, you know, and it’s not just personal events, by the way, let’s just be clear, some of the trauma that’s surfacing right now isn’t even our own. It’s generational…

Mal: It’s selective and generational, yeah.

Laura Joseph: [00:24:16] Selective and generational is surfacing really hard right now. So for those of us who have been spiritually bypassing even our own traumas are especially feeling the weight of this, tremendously. And then there’s the old saying, “when you surrender to what is, it no longer has power.” There’s a paradox of that. Like, people don’t realize that when you surrender, you actually have more power. Well we don’t see it as that. We see it as turning more power over. But yet, the women that I see, they get re-victimized because I [inaudible 24:43] spoken in the [Inaudible 24:45] community on sexual predators that have been infiltrating our communities. And the one thing I see with these women that make them targets, is that they are looking for the knight in shining armour. They’re looking for that guy that’s going to rescue them. That’s going to, “Oh my God, I’m so exhausted. I’m so broken.” I’ve been there. I get it but you don’t want somebody to do it for you because when you have somebody that’s going to do it for you, under the guise of, “let me be charitable”, under the guise of “I want to be your knight, let me help you,” right? That is an invitation of “I’m taking your power away and you don’t even know it.”

Mal: Yes. And it’s control.

Laura Joseph:   By the time you cop on, that’s when the abuse starts. Every single woman that I’ve helped in these situations, it’s been that scenario over and over. Okay. One of them ended up being sexually trafficked by their partner.  And she was worried about her whole losing custody and everything. And this is what happens. [00:25:50] And like we have to become whole. We can’t [inaudible 25:52] this is what they do. They beat us now so much that we get so exhausted, we feel so broken, all we want is somebody to help us, you know. And I’ve been there and I would never want anybody, I would never want anybody to live through some of the things that I went through. You know, I mean, I was borderline homeless, you know. I went from living in a beautiful home, mid six figure income, BMW, two acres of land, indoor ground pool,  whole works to [Inaudible 26:19] a month I was living on. Now, and having everything stripped away from me, including my children that I haven’t seen in over 10 years, you know?

Mal: Because of the system,

Laura Joseph: Hmm?

Mal: Because the system,

Laura Joseph: [00:26:35] Because of the system. Yes. I was punished, with my own children. They used my children to punish me for advocating for the other families. And I had

Mal:   You had a voice that threaten the shit out of them, you got it?

Laura Joseph: I know. You know, I knew I was onto something because I think it was 2006 maybe or 2007, I can’t remember. [00:27:03] I was actually contacted by a 2020 reporter, and I forget how they got my information, but I knew I had to been on to something if they were contacting me saying, “Why? And at the time I only had 11 cases and they go, “why 11?” Or “why only 11?” And sometimes, you don’t always have the answers for those things, right? What it said to me was the fact that they’re contacted me on 11 cases with one judge and they don’t really give a rat’s rear end about my case, is telling me that I was on to something. I didn’t know what, I didn’t know what at the time.

[00:27:42] And it’s the collective [Inaudible 27:43], the collective corruption and the colonization that affects society and it’s so infectious that we don’t even know, and this is the last year that I’m seeing, in order to heal trauma, we have to decolonize. Because this is the piece that I see that people, they go, “why can’t I just get over this? Why can’t I just do this?” Because the belief systems that they have are coming from a colonized mind-set. It’s that parameter that women are less than, nobody’s going to believe you that you deserved it, right, while you were complicit in it, you asked for it, right? All these things are coming from a colonized mind-set. It’s not from well, “I’m a woman and I’m a human being and I didn’t deserve to be abused, raped or beaten. Thank you very much.”

Mal:   Laura, you have got resources on your website for our listeners.

Laura Joseph: Yes.

Mal: Tell them where they can find you, your web address, how they can get in touch with you because I know there are a lot of people out there that need this kind of help, healing and you know, with trauma.

Laura Joseph: [00:28:56] So I do a lot of events too.  I speak at a lot of conferences, structures, organizations.  So sometimes there’s a posted on my event page and the many of them are free. And  I also have a blog on my website with links to like my YouTube videos and everything else, including one that is called “Today I bless my junk”, which is like a four part series, which is like, “look, yes, I was raped, I was abused as a child0”. I can sit there and go be [inaudible 29:27 – 29:28] for the rest of my life. Or I can sit there and say, “You know what, because of what happened to me, I’m more empathetic. Because of what happened to me, it has made me who I am today. Because of what happened to me, I am the loud mouth and spiritual bad-ass, I am, right?” More of a woman’s champion than I was then because my look at my mind-set then, I was raised as a boy, not a woman. So all these things, so I do have a series called “Today I Bless my Junk.” It’s a four part series in a blog section.

Mal: I love it.

Laura Joseph: [00:30:01] It is www.laurahealingwithspirit.

Mal: Wonderful. Thank you my friend. It’s always a joy to see you.

Laura Joseph: You too.

Mal: I’m going to be seeing you on the solstice, honey.

Laura Joseph: Yay. I know I can’t wait. Another powerful day. Talk about some shit kickers. Time, like has a 2020 by the way, for the 2020 and the next women’s retreat on January 12th, we’re going to [Inaudible 30:26] numerology for 2020.

Mal: Oh, awesome.

Laura Joseph: So for those of us with trauma, it’s a big deal to get the stuff rolling now, to set up the legwork, the platform for 2020 on how to take our power back. It’s a very self-empowering year for those of us with trauma. If you’ve already started the work now,

Mal: Awesome. Bless you, my friend.

Laura Joseph:   Thank you.

Mal: Great to be with you.

Laura Joseph: You too.

 NOTES

[00:01:21] Laura began healing herself using spiritual means because the health care system could not come up with a cure.

[00:03:59] Laura rules under the Pisces sign

[00:05:06] Laura’s history of the path she has chosen, being abused, raped, abducted and rufied.

[00:06:16] Spoke about her ex-husband and being married at age 26.

[00:07:05] Spent 10 years researching and advocating for families, resulting in the removal of a corrupt judge.

[00:08:34] Laura explained by girls/women are afraid to come forward, but she implores them to retaliate.

[00:09:11] Laura speaks about the power that women don’t think they have and it’s bad when they start to normalize and accept the abusive behavior.

[00:11:39] Laura believes that if she can heal from trauma, you can heal from anything.

[00:13:21] Laura speaks about her Japanese teachings, having separate bodies; mental, physical, emotional and spiritual.

[00:13:54] Laura teaches people how to listen to their bodies to heal themselves.

[00:15:46] Laura recommends certain modalities such as Jikiden Reiki.

[00:17:43] Laura explains the difference between Western Reiki and Jikiden Reiki.

[00:20:30] Laura teaches to honor the wound, honor the pain.

[00:21:00] Laura explains that the magic to becoming whole is to go into the shadows and know the triggers.

[00:23:30] Laura agrees that you have to accept your situation to get healing.

[00:24:16] Laura speaks about selective and generational trauma.

[00:26:35] Because Laura is an advocate and because if the system she is punished by not being able to see her children.

[00:27:03] Laura is contacted by a 2020 Reporter about her 11 cases.

[00:28:56] Laura’s work, seminars, conferences, etc.

[00:30:01] Laura’s website www.laurahealingwithspirit.

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Meet Clare Chater, The Rainbow Shaman


My Cancer Scare Taught Me So Much.

I love learning healing modalities and all the various ways you can take care of your body!

I am definitely super woo-woo. The more cosmic and angelic, the happier I am.

Back in 2009, I learned about alternative medicine and healing when I was staring at a potential cancer diagnosis.

I would not allow myself to buy into not being well and having a life-threatening illness. I committed to daily practices of meditation, prayer and breathing as well as three weekly acupuncture treatments.

Robert, my acupuncturist said all my organs in my belly were enlarged most likely from the infection I had due to an appendectomy gone bad.

I was so sick; I could hardly eat and would have violent attacks of projectile vomiting. And yet, I did not believe I was deathly ill.

Meanwhile, the medical community kept doing more tests and scans. They were not getting the answers they were looking for. It’s not fun living with a dark cloud hanging over you. After six months they ordered another contrast MRI.

Guess what?

The duct to the pancreas was normal in size again. My doctors were speechless. There is no medical explanation for this they told me. They have never seen this happen before. I didn’t need theirs; I had my own answer “BELIEF”!!!

The entire experience inspired the path I am committed to today, finding alternative ways for you to heal your body.

Just to be clear, I take really good care of myself. I have been taking daily vitamins and herbs for eighteen years. I don’t smoke or drink. I do not sit in the sun.

For the past year, I have been expanding my knowledge base and learning energy healing, understanding the basics of Ayurveda and powerful practices from different shamans.

I want to know as much as I can and so I am able to share it with all of you Dear Ones.

This week’s guest on Awakening Divine Wildness is from across the pond. Clare Chater is a highly recognized healer and is known as the Rainbow Shaman. She is a MESA carrier and has received sacred MESA rights, which have been installed and strengthened. Clare is going to teach you the importance of the four directions, your mind power, and understanding animal symbols.

The entire show is captivating.

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Mal: Oh, today is going to be a really exciting show because I have a guest that has agreed to come on and she’s over right now outside of London in Essex, England. And this is such a treat for Awakening Divine Wildness because this lady is the rainbow Sharman, Clare Chater is from Essex and her shamanic training is in the Peruvian lineage. [00:00:39] She’s a Mesa Carrier and has received sacred, am I saying that right? Mesa?

Clare Chater: Uh-uh.

Mal: Right, which had been installed and strengthened. Her training, she’s done extensive training, which is also known as the Medicine Wheel. And it’s common to spend at least a year in each direction, building a relationship with power. And when we talk about directions, we are referring to the South, the West, the North and the East. You know, we all have that energy within us. She’s had a lifelong initiation process in Shamanism, which she feels chose her rather than her choosing it, which will be very interesting to hear about. She’s been able to have a dialogue and a language with formless energy, which is worth more than all the things in reality. It’s her belief that as a species we will be awakened to disability of communicating more and more. Science calls it metaphysics, but Clare likes to call it Mind Power. You could say it’s a conversation with God and she’s going to open up this show with a special prayer for all of the listeners today. Clare, welcome.

Clare Chater: Thanks Mal. It is an absolute honor to be here, so thank you.

Mal: You look wonderful in your headdress. I just love it. I just know that there’s going to be so much fun. So take it away, girl, with your beautiful prayer.

Clare Chater: Okay, so let me invite everyone just to come into a place of presence. Bring all your energy into yourself right now. Take a nice deep breath in, hold it at the top and out. Just be with yourself for this invocation. Beautiful mother earth. Thank you father sky.  

Mal:  Oh, beautiful. I cannot think of a better day to do this because last night we had a full moon at 12/12 on 12/12. So this show will be appearing later but it’s such a high energy day, such a powerful day to talk about shamanism. You know, 20 years ago, 30 years ago, when I started my spiritual path, I never heard that word. But in the last 10 years, it keeps coming up and I keep meeting different shamans and I’ve been reading books. So I want to introduce the audience to Shamanism and have them understand it and start to embrace the beauty and the power of what a shaman has.

Clare Chater: [00:04:16] Yes, it is. It’s an honorable lineage and part of the Kairos prophecy was to come down to the mountain and to share this wisdom, with the rest of us species so that it has got to people like me. And, they’ve written permission to certain people to teach their lineage. They don’t write books or anything so that it doesn’t become misconstrued or taken out of context or learnt in the wrong way. It’s very specific, so that we hold the sacredness and the honor of the energy. And it does, it works with the four directions. For me, another way of saying that is that you could have an entirely highly evolved being in one direction that you work with and find a relationship with. It’s almost the different personalities of oneness, the different personalities of God. I mean for me everything is all one, but when you get into the metaphysical realms, there’s three part beings there as well. That makes sense. But their understanding is that we’re all connected to the one.

Mal: Yes.

Clare Chater: The same as us. We are three part beings in the physical realm as well.

Mal: Now, I mentioned that I had read a book once called ‘The Four Ways’ about the directions and that each direction had specific personality traits, had certain powers and gifts that we are meant to bring to this to civilization. Can you explain what you mean by the four directions?

Clare Chater: [00:06:12] So in the South we have Sashamama and she comes in and shows herself to me as a snake. So we often use animals and if I journey I will find, different animals coming in and different metaphors and symbols. And that’s almost me having a dialogue with the metaphysical. So that’s how I would understand it rather than in words in stories and in symbols using animals so, that they can relate to my human understanding. And it helps during a healing because depending on which animal comes in, you know what specific theme you’re working on. So the South for instance is all about shedding, shedding the past, shedding old patterns and behaviors. So if snake comes in, you know, you’ve got some unraveling to do.

Mal: Wow.

Clare Chater: In the West, we have a Jaguar and this is fear based. So that if Jaguar comes in, you know that you’re working on a fear based issue. The North is a hummingbird and she represents magic and joy. And I guess in the coaching way you would say finding your life purpose or you know, your meaning, what brings you life force. And the East is all about perspective and bigger picture. Those eagle eyes that can see, eagle and condor that can see from, from far, far away.

Mal:  Oh, I love it. So when you’re doing a session with a client, you’re obviously working with the four directions. And one of those animals, one of those animals will come in and as a symbol for you to help that client?

Clare Chater: Yes, exactly. So I would work with a Mesa. This is the Mesa.

Mal:  Oh, I’m glad you showed that. That’s fascinating. Tell us about the Mesa and what it means.

Clare Chater: [00:08:19] It literally translates as table. So if this is the bundle, so you fold up to contain the power and contain the energy. But if somebody came for a session, you open it in this very special particular way and it becomes a table. And inside are what we call khuya, which are stones and khuya means carrier. So this carries the wisdom and the story and depending on which khuya is picked, that will also represent one of the directions and a lot of the healing. So it would represent that person’s block. If they came with say, relationship issue, they might pick, past life. Kuya. So that will tell me that it’s probably fair based and they’ve got past life threads attached to this issue.

Mal: How many stones are inside there?

Clare Chater: [00:09:15] Twelve.

Mal:  In the Mesa.

Clare Chater: Inside a mesa, so you have three for each direction. You can put other ones in that represent other things as well. You would have an extraction stone for instance. But yes, 12 to be picked from.

Mal: So when you start the session, you open up the Mesa and lay it out?

Clare Chater: Yes.

Mal: And the fabric of the Mesa, is it sacred fabric? Has it been blessed? Is it from a particular place?

Clare Chater: Yes. You start with a Mesa cloth on your very first training and you can never wash it.

Mal: Whoa. Why?

Clare Chater: [00:09:58] Because if you washed it, you would take out all the energy.

Mal: Okay.

Clare Chater: It can change your Mesa cloth, but it takes, you would need to wrap it in the other one. It takes a whole process for really lasting for about two weeks before you can exchange them over. But usually, yes, your Mesa cloth, wouldn’t be washed. It contains all the energy and you feed it. So I would put sugar and blessings and offerings inside the Mesa as well. It’s like an energetic extension of me, so it needs to be fed and nourished and looked after and prayed on.

Mal:  How did you pick your cloth?

Clare Chater:  My original one is inside actually, and that’s a baby blanket and that was my daughter’s baby blanket. So that was very special and had a lot of energy for me as well about birth and creation and new life. And the fluffy on the outside is really cuddly. It’s light, it’s fluffy. I don’t know if you can see it.

Mal: Beautiful. Oh, I love the idea of your daughter’s baby blanket. What beautiful energy to have contained. And as you said, it’s about birthing. Oh my, wonderful. You lay it all out and then does your client get on top of that?

Clare Chater: You would have it on a table there. The couch where they lay to have the healing is a separate couch.

Mal: Okay.

Clare Chater: Laid it out somewhere else and they would pick one of the stones.

Mal: Wonderful. Tell us a little bit more about some of the stones and how they connect to the different directions.

Clare Chater: [00:11:44] So you can have illuminations, which I work with illumination in the South and they were tagged different themes and different stories in the stones as well. So that might be for instance that punishment stone or relationship stone relating to a specific issue. And then in the West you have past life stones. In the North you have soul retrieval and in the East is contract cutting.

Mal: Oh, I just love the sound of all of this. I mean, I’m mesmerized by it. It’s, just beautiful. You’ve been training, how long do you do all of this?

Clare Chater: [00:12:26] So, it’s at least four years. And I have, I’ve had practitioner insurance for about three and I feel my training is forever continuing. I don’t know whether my role ever see myself with sort of done so much exploration. And you kind of, you learn on the job because you make these connections with the metaphysical and then make and teach you other things or show you, I guess it’s like learning a language. A little bit of it, then you can start to speak a little bit more in a little bit more and yeah, there are so many layers.

Mal: Was there a reason why you pursued this? Something specific that inspired you. Were you always very spiritual and this was just the next step in that journey?

Clare Chater: Yes. [00:13:30] I got Ulcerative colitis which is an autoimmune disease when I was nine. And that provoked the spiritual journey for me personally because we did medication for a certain amount of time and then decided, actually this isn’t for me, there’s another way. So I had to, yes, a healing journey or my life and I did Indian spiritual practice for a little bit. I did Reiki Masters and suddenly found myself in Shamanism. And it was, yes, I was suddenly there and I’m working and I thought, “Well, look, look around, how did I get here again? And yes.

Mal: Okay, you say shaman. And I said Sharman, which is the correct way?

Clare Chater: It’s potato, potato.

Mal: Oh, okay. Based on accents or whatever. I don’t know if I was mispronouncing it all this time. Okay. Now you also talk about three parts of beings that connecting our thought patterns or energy for our body to connect to our soul. Can you elaborate a little bit about how you work with those three components and what it does for someone?

Clare Chater: [00:15:01] Yes. So the three part being understanding is that we are mind, body, spirit. Let’s say and this means that the healing is really interactive. So the client on the couch really becomes a part of their own healing and really understands it. I don’t know everything about all other spiritual modalities, but most of the time, if you went for a spiritual healing, you just lay there and receive. There’s not really any participation from the client. Whereas in shamanic healing, and certainly what I do is we very much work with the mind to get the cognitive shifts. So that the energy doesn’t return, so that your block doesn’t return. Because if you didn’t tweak the mind as well, you just take the heavy energy off, you’re just going to recreate that block again because you’ve still got the belief installed in the mind. So, for me, hitter the whole fruit that you get. It’s like counseling and psychotherapy as well as energy healing for the body. So that the client really understands, “Oh, that was the belief that wasn’t serving me. That was the thing that was the problem.” And they get the “aha” shift and they can really move into a new frequency in it. So people say you can really feel that because there’s a relationship to what’s going on and it’s understood in the mind, then felt in the body and the soul part is where we would come in and journey to the other worlds. So I would journey to the metaphysical and have a conversation with their soul or that kind of sound for whatever that is and get any insight that needs to be passed down from. Then that third part, to reveal any revelations that’s coming through that way. So for me, it’s really important to have all of those three things because we are three part beings. Why wouldn’t you make it thorough and make sure that you’re locked in on each section?

Mal: Now I know the listeners that someone’s going to want to know the answer to this question.

Clare Chater: Yeah.

Mal: Can this be done remotely or must the client always be in your physical presence and in the presence of the Mesa and the stones?

Clare Chater: [00:17:30] When I first started, I would only do it in person but since I have been doing online sessions. And I worked in a particular way where I give my khuyus a number, so that the person then picks a number rather than a stone. And if it’s a soul retrieval, I would send an integration journey that they then would have to listen to afterwards. So you take, you have to then lie down and you would take yourself through the journey, so that it can be installed. But feedback from distance clients is yes, they can totally be let, what I say with their experience matches up. So in from my experience, yes it is totally energy knows no time and space and you can do each one remotely. Yes.

Mal: Oh, that’s wonderful. Because I know people who probably going to say, “I want to do this and then can it be done this way?” That’s fascinating. What do you think is the most important aspect of Shamanism? If you could sum it up, what would be the number one benefit that someone could get from a session with you?

Clare Chater: [00:18:59] For me, it’s that knowing and understanding because it’s like a self-development session as well. Because you have the mind power and the cognitive shifts for the brain. It’s like, the idea of understanding proceeds forgiveness. So, if you’re holding onto something, you don’t need forgiveness, if you have that layer of understanding. And you then awakened the person or heightened their awareness, evolve their soul because the mind is understood and been opened. So for me that’s the key on what somebody is going to get out of it.

Mal: It’s really almost a self-realization that comes out of the session.

Clare Chater: Yes. Or like a self-remembering. It’s like, “Oh yeah. Oh yeah.”

Mal:  “Oh yeah. Oh yeah.” I’ve got a lot of “Oh yeah,” in here, let me tell you. Most of them I have faced head on now and dealt with, thank God. But there were many that were suppressed for many years, I’ll tell you, too. This has been a 30 year journey for me, of clearing all the, “Oh yes”. Claire, you have on your beautiful website a lovely free resource for the audience. I would love for you to describe it, tell them about it and how they can get it.

Clare Chater: [00:20:38] Okay. So on the website I have a three part video series and it explains for me two major secrets that are powerful shame and we’ll know that society has forgotten. And if you go to the front page of the website, you’ll see you, would put in your name, where to send it, and then I would send you your three part video series revealing those secrets and insights.

Mal: Can you share one secret with us now? Just a little kind of a tidbit so they understand what you’re talking about. Without revealing too much, what would you consider a secret?

Clare Chater: [00:21:21] Certainly one thing that society has forgotten or when we remember then we soon forget again, is the interconnectedness of everybody. That oneness.

Mal: Yes.

Clare Chater:  That we are all at the whole because we come into life and suddenly we’re in our bodies again and we’re just so identified with this, with the flesh, with the body, we are right here. And it takes moments of being present or moments of the work to realize the one missing and go, “Oh yes!” What’s going on with them? Is it also a mirror for me? And every time we meet up in groups, it’s like you’re a mirror of everybody. That’s certainly why I love shadow work and doing shadow work alchemy because you see your brothers and sisters doing the same things as you and alchemizing the same problems just in a different experience. And it makes it all so divinely beautiful and interlock. But that’s certainly one of the things that even if you do know, it’s too often forgotten and it just takes a conscious mind to keep, keep remembering that piece

Mal: And that is such an important lesson, especially in these times. We’re seeing such separation here in the States and there’s so much violence daily, you know people with guns and whatnot. And you’ve experienced it in England as well where people are fearful and threatened by one another. They’ve attached themselves to dangerous ideology that is teaching them hatred. So it is so important that we come back to that fact that we are all one. That is so important.

Clare Chater: Yes.

Mal: Well you are just a shared joy. I love your head dress. I asked you if you’d wear it. You did. It probably is heavy and I’m a little uncomfortable but bless you for doing that because when I first saw you in your head dress I said, “Oh God, I have got to connect with this lady.” There was something energetic about the photograph that just caught me and I said, “I know she is going to be a wise soul and you are my girl, you are. So thank you again. Would you give your website address so that everybody knows exactly how to get you and I’ll also put it in the show notes.

Clare Chater: Yes, thank you. I will spell it out for you because it might sound like a bit of a mouthful. At pash ceremony so that a www.pashceremony.com.

Mal:  And will you tell the listeners what PASH means because it is an acronym for something.

Clare Chater:  Peruvian Archetype Shamanic Healing.

Mal: Yes. Look at you my dear goddess. You are fabulous. Thank you so much for your time today and for your wisdom. This has really been just such a sheer treat for me. I just love it.

Clare Chater: Thank you so much.

Mal:  Oh my pleasure. Thank you.

Clare Chater: Blessings to you and everybody listening.

Mal:  Thank you, dear.

NOTES

[00:00:39]       Introduction of Clare Chater and her accolades.

[00:04:16]       Clare explaining what is Sharman and shamanism.

[00:06:12] Clare explain explains the four directions. So in the South we have Sashamama and she comes in and shows herself to me as a snake. So we often use animals and if I journey I will find, different animals coming in and different metaphors and symbols. In the West, we have a Jaguar and this is fear based. So that if Jaguar comes in, you know that you’re working on a fear based issue. The North is a hummingbird and she represents magic and joy. And the East is all about perspective and bigger picture.

[00:08:19] Clare explains the Mesa and its 12 stones.

[00:09:58] Clare explain the reason for not washing the Mesa cloth and how it is carefully chose.

[00:11:44]       Clare highlights how the stones are connected to the four directions.

[00:12:26]         Clare explains the length of the Shamanism training.

[00:13:30]         Clare highlights the reason she pursued Shamanism She has Ulcerative Colitis

                          and scientific methods would not work.

[00:15:01]         Claire explains what is Shamanism and why it’s a three-part being, understanding mind, body and spirit.

[00:17:30]         The Shamanic technique can also be one remotely.

[00:18:59]         Clare emphasized that the most important part of Shamanism is knowing and

                          understanding.

[00:20:38]         Clare tells of the resources on her webpage www.pashceremony.com

[00:21:21]         Clare shares a secret of the interconnectedness of everybody and the oneness.

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